Tyndall’s Park Road and Woodland Road

[UPDATE: Response to the consultation is here 10TM028 Tyndalls Park Road Consultation Responses. Some good points such as no hatching lane markings and improvement to the ‘cycle-gate’. Others less so]

Bristol Cycling Campaign has made the following response to proposals for this important junction in Cotham.

Our overall position on this consultation is: Object, with qualifications

Bristol Cycling Campaign believes that every Bristolian, whatever their age or ability, deserves safe and inviting space for cycling on all Bristol’s streets. This should never be to the detriment of walking. We have the following general comments on this consultation drawing on the Bristol Cycling Manifesto, and the Making Space for Cycling guide for street renewals which set out how to achieve Space for Cycling:

Space for Cycling

Does this measure advance the six themes of 1) Protected space on main roads; 2) Remove through motor traffic; 3) Safe routes to school; 4) Cycle friendly town centres; 5) Cycle routes in green spaces; 6) 20mph speed limits?

Amber – overall neutral

Road Danger Reduction

Does this measure seek a genuine reduction in danger for all road users by identifying and controlling the principal sources of threat?

Green – overall benefit

Triple A Quality (All Ages and Abilities)

Will this measure be attractive to all ages and abilities using all kinds of cycles?

Red – overall disbenefit

Strategic Cycling Network

How does this measure contribute to the development of Bristol Council’s planned integrated and coherent strategic cycle network?

Amber – overall neutral


How far does this measure provide for Triple A Space for Cycling in the future?

Amber – overall neutral


Bristol Cycling Campaign has the following specific comments on this consultation:

1. This is an already a busy and important cycling route and likely to become more so. It is part of the existing signed Downs Way and the Strategic Bristol Cycle Network, a central part of the University precinct, and part of the National Cycling Network. It is part of the Q1 Downs Way Quietway and the proposed University Promenade route linking university to Clifton and Gloucester Road, see the Clifton, Cabot and Clifton East neighbourhood cycling page

2. We are of the view that there is an opportunity to progress strategic aspirations of reducing through traffic by closing Woodland Road to through traffic with bollards. This would then allow a proper zebra crossing across Tyndall’s Park road connecting both sides of Woodland Road.

3. The proposed scheme introduces an unpleasant pinch point for cycling along Tyndall’s Park Road. This is likely to deter more people than may be encouraged by a more general reduction of speed.

4. The scheme makes no provision to improve the current serious pinch-point one of the main desire lines for cycling which is to continue north along Woodland Road through the poorly designed and uncomfortable bike-gate. An increase in the width of the two-way cycle lane and removal of the post would deliver a significant improvement to the usability of the route for cyclists. It would also address the present uncomfortably sharp turn from Tyndalls Park Road.

5. We are also concerned that the “existing kerbs to remain at 50mm high around the speed table” as this height may pose a trip risk to pedestrians and cyclists who may not notice the slight kerb and either trip over it when walking or clip it when cycling – particularly at night. We would propose that a 30% sloping kerb could be used to divide the raised table from the cycle track and the footway providing adequate physical separation, yet remaining more forgiving to cyclists and pedestrians alike.

6. At least one of the ramps on the cycle way is shown at the same gradient as the ramps on the road. Since cycles will remain give way, applying ramps to make them slow down should be unnecessary, and the cycle ramps should be much shallower to minimise disturbance.

7. The centre line division on Tyndalls Road should not be reinforced by conversion to hatched lines through the speed table. Firm dividers are generally considered to promote higher speeds, sometimes called the railway effect. This is also confusing for south turns.

8. We would like to have been able to be more supportive but we feel the scheme as proposed will not meet it’s stated aims. While there may be benefits for pedestrians the overall effect will be negative for cycling and the scheme will make it harder to achieve the Mayor’s stated aim through the Bristol Cycle Strategy of achieving 20% cycling in 10 years.